Who is the single mother the octuplets + 6 more?

Maybe she watched Jon and Kate +8 one too many times. Perhaps she thought she could out do the Duggars? Who knows but after reading the story below, I have to admit, something just seems wrong about the whole situation.

You can read what I think about the Duggars here;

http://luvsexytrstno1.blogspot.com/2008/06/is-it-little-disturbing-and-cult-like.html

I actually like to watch Jon and Kate + 8 because they are human. I knew Kate was an Aries before she revealed her birth date on the show because I could see myself in some of her actions (the obsessive cleanliness and order most especially). I like that the kids are shown running a muck and that the parents are shown disagreeing and frustrated at times. That is the reality of life. It isn't all flowers and sunshine. I think Nadya missed those moments on that show or down played them in her mind because they are there and they are there for a reason, to let the viewer know it is HARD WORK. I only wish the show gave more details about their budgets and daily schedule as I bet that would shock the average viewer or at least take some of the glamour out of it. I only hope this will encourage fertility doctors to do better screening in the future. I can't imagine who approved Nadya knowing she had six other children! Also, reports have surfaced that she is upset that she isn't getting the endorsement offers and free products she expected?!? What is she going to name these kids anyway? Huggies, Gerber, Fisher, and Price, etc?

As if the California department of Social Services ( all child protection services really!) didn't already have a big enough caseload!

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Kate Gosselin Says Octuplet Mother Nadya Suleman Went too Far
By The Staff at wowOwow.com

Kate Gosselin, star of TLC’s popular reality show "Jon & Kate Plus 8," knows from big, chaotic families. As the title of her show suggests, Gosselin’s the proud mother of eight children — a set of twins and sextuplets — that she and husband Jon care for with a mix of teamwork, efficiency and a whole lot of love.
Like Nadya Suleman, the unmarried California mother of six who just gave birth to eight babies, the Gosselins used fertility drugs to conceive their big family — but they knew when to stop. Though she has no regrets, Gosselin thinks unemployed Suleman went too far and today offered some harsh words via the New York Post. Here are some highlights:
Q: Do you think Nadya did the right thing in having these octuplets, after already having six children?

Kate: I believe that every life that is created has a purpose. However, personally, I would never have set out to even have a seventh child — especially if I was a single parent!
Q: Nadya is not married, and there’s no father that we know of. Is this a problem?

Kate: Absolutely. The workload that Jon and I share is often even too much for us! It is unimaginable the amount of work she will have to bear as a single mother raising eight preemies as well as six other children.

Q: Do you think Nadya is cognizant of what’s in store for her?

Kate: No. I can honestly say that no amount of planning ahead prepared me for what I faced. And in comparison, I had three-year-old twins and six preemies … and a helpful husband. And we struggled in every way — physically, emotionally and financially.

Q: How do you think this will affect her other children?

Kate: There will be various reactions, ranging from helpfulness, involvement to resentment of the complete chaos and lack of attention the older six will now receive.
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Is California Octuplets' Mother Trying to Outdo the Duggars?
January 31, 2009 by
Jillita Horton
What motivated the 33-year-old mother of the California octuplets to reproduce like a rabbit? Is the California octuplets mother trying to outdo the Duggars? You know who the Duggars are, right? Michelle Duggar has given birth to 18 kids including twins, but the Duggars did not have fertility help. The Duggars want more kids. I wonder if the California octuplets mother wants more kids yet. I wouldn't put that past her; she already has six other kids including twins, all under age 8! The California octuplets mother is insane!At first, I thought this was an infertile, childless couple desperate for kids who decided upon hormone injections or hormone pills, that stimulate ovarian production of eggs. And by chance, eight eggs were produced and were fertilized inside her body. But that's not the story. The California octuplets mother had in vitro fertilization: eight eggs were fertilized outside the womb and then implanted into her! Plus, she has six other kids! I'm also hearing that the California octuplets mom lives with her own mother and is financially strapped. Yes, I bet she envies the Duggars and she's trying to emulate the Duggars and their 18 kids.Well, there's a huge difference between this so-far nameless mother of octuplets, and Michelle Duggar. Michelle Duggar was married before having her first child. Michelle Duggar conceived naturally. The Duggars have always been financially secure. In fact, the Duggars are stinkin' rich. Finally, the Duggars have had one baby at a time, with the exception of their twins.The California octuplets mother willfully, purposefully and consciously had eight embryos implanted into her. Now, in vitro fertilization has risks; often, not all of the implanted embryos "take," and a spontaneous abortion occurs. This is why with in vitro fertilization, several embryos are usually implanted. But EIGHT ? Who's the mad doctor who did this? Why not five or four? Any doctor knows that the odds of all eight being born without medical problems are astronomical to 1.Never mind that reportedly, the octuplets are doing great and seven no longer need supplemental oxygen. At the time those eight embryos were implanted, nobody had a crystal ball.Why would a woman, already with six kids, seek in vitro fertilization anyways? Secondly, if the California octuplets mother is financially strapped, where did she get the money for in vitro fertilization? Unless she put it on several credit cards? The cost of diapers has been estimated at $500 per MONTH. Did the California octuplets mother have a team of nannies lined up to help her with the kids before she had the embryos implanted? Or did the California octuplets mother believe only four of the embryos would "take" ?

And where's daddy in all this?

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Veil about to be lifted on octuplets' mystery mom
By JOHN ROGERS – 2 hours ago
WHITTIER, Calif. (AP) — Reporters from all over the map have camped outside her doorstep and surrounded the hospital where she gave birth to eight healthy babies last week, but people still don't know much about Nadya Suleman. That's about to change.
After managing to avoid reporters as she left the hospital Thursday morning, Suleman headed for her first interview, with Ann Curry of NBC's "Today" show. One of the octuplets mother's hastily hired publicists said she is staying at "an undisclosed location" while she considers offers including possible book and TV deals.
NBC News spokeswoman Megan Kopf said Suleman was not paid for the interview. An air-date announcement was expected later Thursday.
Not even a photo of Suleman has emerged and public records shed little light on her. The 33-year-old single mother, who now has 14 children under the age of 8, has used different names over the years and has been married and divorced once.
State documents disclosed Thursday to The Associated Press show that she received more than $165,000 in disability payments for a back injury suffered during a riot at the mental-health hospital where she worked. The payments were made between 2002 and 2008, during which time Suleman gave birth to most of her six other children.
The documents, provided to the AP on Thursday following a public records request to the Department of Mental Health, also show that Suleman had three miscarriages before she first became a mother.
Neighbors say that while Suleman is quick to smile and wave to them, she generally keeps to herself.
"She's a very pretty woman and, yes, she's very friendly when I see her," said Thelma Steinweg, who said Suleman moved next door on the quiet, narrow cul de sac about three years ago.
"But I usually only see her going in or out of her house or on the steps, shouting at the kids when they're playing in the yard," Steinweg added.
As she spoke she glanced at Suleman's small front yard, littered with children's toys. A child's car seat sat propped up near the front door. From the front porch, Suleman's mother could be heard inside, singing to a crying child.
While Suleman, whose 14 children were conceived by in vitro fertilization, declined to speak publicly for days, she has come under criticism from TV and radio commentators, bloggers and others who have accused her of irresponsibly having more children than she appears prepared to care for. Some have accused her of having the octuplets in an effort to cash in with a TV or book deal.
Although her publicists acknowledge she is reviewing such offers, one of her friends said she simply loves children and didn't get pregnant for profit.
"She's not even interested in that right now," said Jessica Zepeda, who lives down the street. "It's funny and sad in a way, there's a lot of people saying really negative things and they don't know her."
Suleman's mother said she expects people's opinions to change when her daughter goes public with her story.
"She's a very likable person," said Angela Suleman, who spoke briefly with a reporter on her doorstep Wednesday. "She's basically normal except for this obsession she's always had with children."
Nadya Suleman, who public records show has held a license as a mental health technician, was listed on the payroll of Metropolitan State Hospital in Norwalk from 1997 until last year. State records show that for much of that time, she was unable to work.
She was injured at the hospital on Sept. 18, 1999, during a riot of 20 patients. While restraining a patient, she was struck in the back by a desk hurled by another patient.
During an August 2008 exam, Dr. Steven Nagelberg attributed 90 percent of her injury to the work incident and 10 percent to her pregnancy.
An August 2001 psychological evaluation in her workers' compensation file said Suleman had three miscarriages before having a baby. When Suleman learned that she was pregnant with her first child, the report quotes her as saying, "It's the most wonderful, best thing that's ever happened in my life."
Suleman's mother said her daughter hasn't worked since soon after becoming pregnant with her octuplets. She has also had to discontinue her pursuit of a master's degree at California State University, Fullerton, where she earned a bachelor's degree in child care development.
"She may not be able to finish her master's degree now and she was so close to wrapping it up," her mother said Wednesday.
Nadya Suleman's publicist Mike Furtney said she has told him it's her dream to eventually earn a Ph.D. in some field involving counseling.
Furtney said Suleman is "feeling great" and looking forward to being reunited with her octuplets, who are expected to remain in the hospital for several more weeks.
"She's happy to be out of the hospital, although she misses her children," he said. "She can't wait until they join her."
The octuplets were born nine weeks prematurely and will be released from the hospital individually as they hit a near-normal newborn weight.
"At this point in their development, they are not mature enough to coordinate the suckling and swallowing at the same time to be bottle-fed," said Dr. Mandhir Gupta, the hospital's neonatologist.
According to Steinweg, Suleman initially thought only six of the eight embryos she had implanted in her womb last year had survived. She learned later in her pregnancy that seven had. She was surprised again on the day she gave birth to learn there were actually eight. Born Jan. 26, the children are now the longest known surviving octuplets in history.
It still isn't clear who their father is, or who fathered Suleman's other six children, who range in age from 2 to 7.
Suleman listed a David Solomon as the father on the birth certificates for her first four children but gave a different birthday for him on each certificate and listed both Israel and California as his place of birth. He could not be located for comment.
She listed no father on the birth certificates for her fifth and sixth children, twins born in 2006.
Suleman herself has been known by different names over the years, including Natalie Suleman, Natalie Gutierrez, Nadya Gutierrez and Nadya Doud.
Suleman was married to Marcos Gutierrez in 1996 and was divorced last year, according to public records. Gutierrez did not return calls to numbers listed for him, and his divorce lawyer, Roberto Gil, declined to comment.
Divorce papers state the couple split up in 2000 and had no children, although Suleman had given birth to her first six children by the time the divorce was finalized.
Public records show Suleman's father has used the last names Doud and Suleman. Her parents married in Las Vegas in 1974 and divorced in 1999. Suleman was their only child.
Associated Press writers Shaya Tayefe Mohajer and Thomas Watkins contributed to this story.

Oprah admits to weighing 200 pounds

Love her or hate you have to admit it has to be very hard to struggle with food and weight issues when you are such a public figure. You have people cheering for your success and people gloating at every failure. Kathy Griffin even says in her stand up routine that every time Oprah gains weight back, it gives her material for her act. Maybe this is because so many of us are secretly relieved that there is something, anything imperfect about such a powerful self made woman. Heck, she may be the most powerful woman on television today but, she's f-a-t! I mean really wouldn't it be harder to accept if she didn't have any obvious flaws. I actually think I like her more because her weight issues make her seem more human. I can relate to struggling with food and weight issues and I am ever so grateful that I haven't had to appear before millions at some of my highest weights! It also reinforces the fact that DIETS DON"T WORK! If one of the richest women in the world who has person chefs, personal trainers, fitness and health gurus, and can even hire someone to slap the naughty food out of her hand if she wants to can't stick to a diet, how does it look for the rest of us average folks?

An embarrassed Oprah Winfrey says she's "fallen off the wagon" of healthy living and has ballooned to 200 pounds. In January's "O" magazine, Winfrey, 54, details her recent struggles with an out-of-balance thyroid and how the condition made her develop "a fear of working out." She says she's gained 40 pounds since 2006, when she weighed 160.

"I look at my thinner self and think, `How did I let this happen again?'" the talk-show queen says in the article provided early to The Associated Press by Harpo Productions.

"I'm embarrassed," she says. "I'm mad at myself."

Winfrey's weight and height put her body mass index at 31.8, which is obese, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC says people who are obese are at higher risk for chronic conditions such as high blood pressure, diabetes and high cholesterol.

Winfrey says she's abandoned trying to get thin. She just wants to be strong, healthy and fit. She hopes to get started with her upcoming "Best Life Week," starting Jan. 5 with an episode of "The Oprah Winfrey Show" during which she is expected to talk candidly about her weight.

Winfrey famously wheeled a wagon loaded with fat onto the set of her talk show in 1988 to represent a 67-pound weight loss while wearing a pair of size 10 Calvin Klein jeans. She had lost the weight with a liquid protein diet.

"When it comes to maintaining my health I didn't just fall off the wagon. I let the wagon fall on me," the chairwoman of Harpo Inc. writes. "I didn't follow my own fundamental rule of taking care of self first."

In 2005, Winfrey said she starved herself for four months to lose weight. Ever since, her weight has yo-yoed. She weighed as much as 237 pounds and by late 1990 acknowledged she had regained most of the 67 pounds, saying "I'll never diet again."

In 1994, she finished the Marine Corps Marathon and by 1996 hired personal trainer Bob Greene, saying her roller-coaster weight saga was over.

But now, Winfrey finds herself tipping the scales again, telling AP Television last week that she has yet to choose a gown for President-elect Barack Obama's inaugural ball next month.

"I had a dress on the vision board, but I'm not sure that's gonna fit," Winfrey said. "So I have to work on something else."


Oprah reveals she weighs 200 pounds
American talk show ‘queen’ Oprah Winfrey apparently believes in being straightforward when it comes to talking about her weight, for she has revealed in an article that she currently weighs 200 pounds.
She also writes that she has “fallen off the wagon” when it comes to healthy living.
The article, released by Winfrey’s Harpo Productions, appears in the January issue of ‘O’ magazine.
"I'm mad at myself," ‘the New York Daily News’ quoted her as having written in the article..
"I'm embarrassed. I can't believe that after all these years, all the things I know how to do, I'm still talking about my weight. I look at my thinner self and think, ''How did I let this happen again?” she wrote.
The write-up details Winfrey’s recent struggles with an out-of-balance thyroid, and how the condition made her develop "a fear of working out".
It reveals that the 54-year-old talk show host has gained 40 pounds since she weighted 160 pounds in 2006.
"Yes, you're adding correctly; that means the dreaded 2-0-0. I was so frustrated I started eating whatever I wanted - and that's never good," Winfrey writes.
The piece also suggests that Winfrey no longer wants to be thin, and that she instead wishes to be strong healthy and fit.
Winfrey seemed to sound almost apologetic in her article, as she wrote: "I definitely wasn't setting an example. I was talking the talk, but I wasn't walking the walk. And that was very disappointing to me."

more on carnie wilson's new reality show

I posted this on the message board after my post about Carnie turned into a huge flame war about post op regain. I too am not sure how I feel about her being the chef on this new show. I am very curious to see if her recipes will be weight loss surgery friendly. I am considering buying her cookbook although I have been told that the recipes AREN'T weight loss surgery friendly. I am hopeful that the recipes on the show will be however. This could be a great opportunity for her to showcase some healthy recipes that still taste great to people that are not post op weight loss surgery!
She was being made fun of on Chelsey Lately for being the new queen of reality television, that is how I first heard of the new show. I agree she has to work and if reality television is paying the bills, then who are we to judge. Obviously people are watching it, I know I will, or she wouldn't keep getting offers to do more.

Post Date: 6/18/08 12:32 pm
gee, I had no idea when I posted this that I would open such a can of worms. I must thank Carnie Wilson for my current situation, post op weight loss surgery, down over 100 pounds, married to a man who also post op weight loss surgery is CURED of type 2 diabetes (his fasting pro op blood sugars were over 300 on Metformin, his triglyceride's were 1500, the highest I had ever seen, this is also while he was on medication) now his cholest. is healthy and he is off all meds. I live in Alaska after taking a drastic leap of faith and leaving everyone and everything we knew to drive here in a VW bug with our infant daughter and 3 cats. (I would have never had the courage to do that pre op) I am in the process of making a drastic career change and going back to school. I always swore I wouldn't be one of those women that let my weight issues keep me from living a normal life and following my dreams but now I realize it was. I read both of Carnies books pre op and post op. I also reviewed one for my blog. She struggled with addiction and weight issues her whole life, she was very honest about this in both of her books. She even titled her second book (written after her weight loss surgery) "Still Hungry". She is very clear in that book that weight loss surgery isn't a magic cure, that you still have to work with your food issues everyday. She talks about this and the high rate of transfer addictions post weight loss surgery. She was on Oprah talking about it also. I really thank those two books for informing me about the honest realities of weight loss surgery. Most of the books I have read about it are either so technical and written with impossible medical language (I am a nurse and I found some very hard to read), or are so super positive that they don't even hint at a possibility of failure. I have tried to include the more realistic and down to earth books about weight loss surgery on my blog, including hers. Just think of it this way, she could have easily went into hiding after she started to regain. Lots of celebs do. She could have blamed the surgery and said it failed her, she didn't. she said it was her own issues and not paying attention to her eating that made her regain. She is accepting responsibility and being honest. You have to respect that a little don't you? I hope that you will read at least her second book, Still Hungry. It will help you once you are over a year out. This surgery doesn't fix your mind. What ever issues, insecurities, coping mechanisms, you had before surgery are still going to be with you after surgery. We had a woman that came to speak to our pre op surgery group that was considered a "failure". She said she had been over weight all her life. She said that when she was over 400 pounds (she was 5'2" I think) and the guy didn't like her, she couldn't make friends, she didn't get the job, or she didn't fit in, she always blamed her weight. Then she had the surgery and lost over 200 pounds and the guy still didn't like her, she still couldn't make friends, still didn't fit in, and still didn't get the job. She said she couldn't blame her weight anymore and realized it must be "her" that was the problem and the surgery had taken away the one thing that gave her pleasure, eating. She dumped on dairy post op so she sat on the toilet and ate ice cream. Is that an extreme example? yes but it also proves a point. Her coping mechanism had always been eating and she never did the work to change it so when she started to have stress post op, she went right back to it. It also shows that this surgery isn't the magic cure for all that ails you in your life. I hope you understand that many of us have this surgery after a lifetime of weight issues and all of the emotional baggage that goes with it, Carnie and myself included. If this isn't you also, then you are very lucky and hopefully you won't deal with having to find a new coping mechanism, transfer addiction, or regain as statistically most post op patients do.

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